Nest noticed that your furnace frequently turns itself off

The thermostat that has everyone talking thermostats.

The Google Nest Learning Thermostat learns from you and your home, programs itself automatically, and helps save energy when you’re away. And you can control it using your phone, tablet, or laptop.

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Let’s stop wasting energy.

Your smart thermostat controls about half of your energy bill. That’s more than appliances, lighting, TVs, computers and stereos combined.

A lot of that energy is wasted heating and cooling an empty home. Programmable thermostats were supposed to help. But many people never program their thermostats – it’s just too complicated.

Programs itself. Helps save energy

Learns your schedule
No more programming. With Auto-Schedule, Nest learns from you and programs itself.

Control from your phone
Change the temperature from anywhere using your phone, tablet or laptop.

Helps save energy
Nest can use sensors, algorithms and even your phone’s location to save energy when no one’s home.

  • Auto-Schedule: Nest learns the temperatures you like and programs itself in about a week.
  • Eco-Temps: Nest automatically turns itself down when nobody’s home to help you save energy.
  • Remote Control: Connect your thermostat to Wi‑Fi to control the temperature from your phone, tablet or laptop.
  • Farsight: When Nest spots you across the room, it lights up to show you the time, temperature or weather.
  • Energy History: Check your Energy History in the Nest app to see how much energy you use and why.
  • Nest Leaf: You’ll see the Leaf when you choose a temperature that saves energy. It guides you in the right direction.

Two nights ago my furnace began short cycling. Short cycling is when the furnace will kick on for a few seconds, then shut off for a few seconds, then back on, then back off, repeat indefinitely. It’s loud and it doesn’t heat anything. For me, the timing couldn’t have been worse: a polar vortex slipped down that afternoon bringing with it the coldest temperatures we’ve had in decades. I ended up tinkering, but couldn’t make any progress. I moved the kiddos into the one room in the house with baseboard heating, and called a service technician in the morning. With his help and the help of Nest phone support I was able to get everything back up and running. I couldn’t find this solution online anywhere, so I’ve posted it here hoping it’ll save someone else a frigid night.

I’m not a heating and cooling expert, so I’ll only claim this solution is helpful for my system as configured. It’s a common configuration, but if yours differs, you may have to do a little more digging. My HVAC setup:

  • Furnace (forced air)
  • Air Conditioner
  • Nest 2

I have four wires connected to my Nest:

  • Yellow (Y1), AC
  • Green (G), Fan
  • Red (Rc), Power to switch
  • White (W1), Heat

The technician was able to narrow down the problem to my Nest thermostat. The quickest way to eliminate the furnace as the problem is to:

  1. Turn power off to your furnace.
  2. Remove the Nest thermostat from your wall.
  3. Remove the Red (Rc or Rh) and White (W1) from the thermostat.
  4. Connect the Red and White wires together (twisting, alligator clips, or whatever you’ve got to move those electrons).
  5. Turn power back on to your furnace.

A thermostat is basically a programmable switch. When your heat comes on the thermostat switches power to the white wire from the red wire. That’s why this should work. If your heat comes on after shorting the red and white wires together and is no long short cycling, your thermostat is likely the problem.

Here’s how to fix your Nest thermostat:

  1. Turn power off to your furnace.
  2. Remove the Nest from the wall (if you haven’t already).
  3. Replace the red and white wires to their original locations (if you haven’t already).
  4. Remove the Yellow (Y1) wire and tuck it away safely.
  5. Put the Nest back on your wall.
  6. Turn power back on to your furnace.

So what’s happening? Honestly,  I’m not entirely sure. The explanation I got from Nest phone support was that the extreme cold was affecting the yellow wire that runs outside to the air conditioner somehow. Sure. I’ve seen others complain about battery problems and software updates, so take it for what it’s worth. Regardless, removing the yellow wire solved my short cycling problems.

This is only a temporary solution for when it’s insanely cold. Once the polar vortex leaves and temperatures return closer to something resembling normal, I’ll reconnect the yellow wire. Otherwise the AC won’t turn on once temperatures really get up there.

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Why does my heat keep turning off with Nest thermostat?

If your Nest thermostat is randomly turning off by itself, it could be because your home/away assist settings need to be adjusted, the wire connections are loose or shorted, or you need to update the Nest software.

What would cause a furnace to keep shutting off?

If your furnace keeps shutting off, it could be due to low airflow. There are several indirect issues that cause low airflow. Dirty Air Filters. If you don't change your air filters often enough, the filters will become dirty and clogged, which means the heat exchanger retains heat and eventually causes it to overheat.

Why does my furnace keep turning off after 15 minutes?

If your air filter is too dirty, it will restrict airflow. Your furnace will then shut off prematurely to avoid overheating. We recommend replacing flat filters once a month, and pleated filters every three months. It's easy to stay on top of changing your filter by adding a Filter Reminder on your thermostat.

Can a Nest thermostat cause short cycling?

If your heat comes on after shorting the red and white wires together and is no long short cycling, your thermostat is likely the problem. Here's how to fix your Nest thermostat: Turn power off to your furnace. Remove the Nest from the wall (if you haven't already).

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