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1. 07-20-2010 12:18 PM #1

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   a4 2.8L 30v v6 turbo or supercharger??

   ok so i really want a turbo for my 1998 2.8L 30v v6 but i cant find one. can anyone please help. the turbo kit would be nice or a supercharger kit. i just cant find one

2. 07-20-2010 12:25 PM #2

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   Turbo = No.

   Supercharger = PES G2. $3,495. 100HPish gain.

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3. 07-20-2010 12:27 PM #3

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   is it even worth spendin 4grand for 100hp? did you get one?

4. 07-20-2010 12:58 PM #4

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   Originally Posted by ndfan81824

   is it even worth spendin 4grand for 100hp? did you get one?

   no its not. Thers no other upgrades for these cars other than intake/exhaust/simple stuff

   IMO the 2.8 30v is pleanty fast for a daily driver.

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5. 07-20-2010 01:05 PM #5

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   Originally Posted by SantorianA4

   Turbo = No.

   Supercharger = PES G2. $3,495. 100HPish gain.

   Or nitrous = 500 to 1000 dolalrs , 25 to 125hp gain and a buttload of ft/lb

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6. 07-20-2010 01:12 PM #6

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   just deal with you 2.8. its quick enough.

   go drive a civic. then try out a corolla. getting back in the 2.8 will feel like driving a GTR hah.

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7. 07-20-2010 02:27 PM #7

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   was there a glitch or something? i thought i was in the B5 S4 section

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8. 07-20-2010 02:45 PM #8

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   ya its quick but i want some boost behind my wheels,

9. 07-20-2010 04:26 PM #9

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   Originally Posted by sean1.8t

   was there a glitch or something? i thought i was in the B5 S4 section

   Everyone always misposts in our forum.

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10. 07-20-2010 06:49 PM #10

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12. 07-20-2010 06:54 PM #11

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    Originally Posted by ndfan81824

    what type of nos to get?

    corner store. get the good stuff. i put some in my old STi and it was fun

    Current:

    '16 Mercedes-Benz C450 "AMG":

    Stage 2 w/downpipes & 19" BBS CH-R's

    '88 Harley-Davidson Sporty 880:

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    Previous:
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    '01.5 Audi A4 1.8TQMS: Tune and exhaust.
    '99 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon Manual: Bone stock.
    I don't even want to remember the others

13. 07-20-2010 07:06 PM #12

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    bahahahahaahahaahahahahaha energy drink. sti looks nice though bro.

14. 08-15-2010 07:51 AM #13

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    Originally Posted by ndfan81824

    ok so i really want a turbo for my 1998 2.8L 30v v6 but i cant find one. can anyone please help. the turbo kit would be nice or a supercharger kit. i just cant find one

    PES makes a supercharger for our 98 audi a4 2.8 litre 30 valve. Its called G2.

    go to www.pes-tuning.com and follow the specs of your car.

    AFTER THE SUPERCHARGER, THEIR ECU CHIP GOES VERY WELL WITH THE PES G2 SUPERCHARGER.

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15. 08-15-2010 12:43 PM #14

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    Originally Posted by dredrift

    PES makes a supercharger for our 98 audi a4 2.8 litre 30 valve. Its called G2.

    go to www.pes-tuning.com and follow the specs of your car.

    AFTER THE SUPERCHARGER, THEIR ECU CHIP GOES VERY WELL WITH THE PES G2 SUPERCHARGER.

    What are you talkin about?? The supercharger is run only with the tune

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16. 08-17-2010 02:58 PM #15

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    I think for that load of cash what you will pay for a PESS G2 you can swap in a 2.7 bit easily. I think that would be the best choice. AND F*** YOU V6 HATERS.

17. 08-17-2010 07:20 PM #16

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    Originally Posted by Andis

    I think for that load of cash what you will pay for a PESS G2 you can swap in a 2.7 bit easily. I think that would be the best choice. AND F*** YOU V6 HATERS.

    i was thinking bout charging mine too at one point, dont get me wrong it would be sick and ide put a big a** pully on it to make it sound like a fire truck. but untill they drop the price say 2gs i would much rather do the 2.7

18. 08-21-2010 02:15 AM #17

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    Originally Posted by thewagen

    i was thinking bout charging mine too at one point, dont get me wrong it would be sick and ide put a big a** pully on it to make it sound like a fire truck. but untill they drop the price say 2gs i would much rather do the 2.7

    You will never swap a 2.7 for under $3500 that the supercharger costs. Also you put smaller pulleys to make it boost more.

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19. 08-21-2010 02:17 AM #18

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    Originally Posted by thewagen

    i was thinking bout charging mine too at one point, dont get me wrong it would be sick and ide put a big a** pully on it to make it sound like a fire truck. but untill they drop the price say 2gs i would much rather do the 2.7

    You will never swap a 2.7 for under $3500 that the supercharger costs. Also you put smaller pulleys to make it boost more.

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20. 08-27-2010 07:49 AM #19

    Established Member Two Rings

    
    
    Originally Posted by somebody5788

    You will never swap a 2.7 for under $3500 that the supercharger costs. Also you put smaller pulleys to make it boost more.

    smaller supercharger pully does make more boost, or you could put a larger crank pully on it to do the same thing....my bad

    Last edited by thewagen; 08-27-2010 at 07:54 AM.

21. 08-27-2010 08:08 AM #20

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    I would pull it and put in a 1.8T with a larger turbo

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23. 09-06-2010 06:40 PM #21

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    ^ lol, thats not going to be any cheaper. to correctly upgrade a turbo on a 1.8T you are going to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of $4,000

24. 09-06-2010 09:24 PM #22

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    Originally Posted by EErie B6

    ^ lol, thats not going to be any cheaper. to correctly upgrade a turbo on a 1.8T you are going to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of $4,000

    $4K would just be the start.

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25. 09-22-2010 03:21 PM #23

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    put the k04 setup from an s4 on it.

26. 11-16-2010 05:11 PM #24

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    I have been told that doing the 2.7 swap is actually pretty cost effective when you look at the power gain. How much would it be to fully swap an s4 drivetrain if I were to piece it together my self?

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27. 01-11-2011 12:19 PM #25

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    I have the PES GEN 2 on my 01 avant. To look at it like just 100 extra hp is kind of remise. The torque delivery is radically changed. It comes on hard at very low rpms and does not stop till redline. Very different animal then stock. Will it compare to a stage III 2.7 twin turbo....no way. If you are due for a timing belt change then the GEN 2 is really a strait forward install. I love mine, but if a 2.7 twin turbo was really that easy a swap...well...

28. 02-14-2011 02:11 PM #26

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    I think a supercharged 2.8 would bea great choice. I had one now drive a 1.8 stage 2. I think I would prefer a supercharged 2. Over this or even a k04'd a4. Real leather full power seats not to mention having an actual fifth gear not the retarded gear ratio of the 1.8(sorry fellow Turbo goers just my .02 take t ias you want) you can find a used PES kit for for 2 k with add onbparts everyonce and a while just be patient. Typed on phone on train sorry for errors

29. 02-15-2011 09:01 AM #27

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    Originally Posted by klintman

    I have the PES GEN 2 on my 01 avant. To look at it like just 100 extra hp is kind of remise. The torque delivery is radically changed. It comes on hard at very low rpms and does not stop till redline. Very different animal then stock. Will it compare to a stage III 2.7 twin turbo....no way. If you are due for a timing belt change then the GEN 2 is really a strait forward install. I love mine, but if a 2.7 twin turbo was really that easy a swap...well...

    Hell when they are running right they start with a ton of torque and come on harder and harder till you accidentally bounce off the rev limiter. They so need a 7k redline.......

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30. 04-05-2011 06:40 PM #28

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    Originally Posted by somebody5788

    They so need a 7k redline.......

    The piston can take more than 7000 RPM according to a base rule of the piston speed. The standard metallurgy of late 80's to mid 90's was 4000 ft/s. Newer RS4 have a piston speed of 5600+ thank to better alloys.
    Since some 2.7T use the 2.8 head at past 7250 rpm, until valve float?, I'm quite confident they can take it.

    However, I cannot find a sure source on the specific value of the piston speed. Audi use a security factor to prevent catastrophic failures. I cannot find the alloy the pistons where made of either... a manufacturer could then give us a sourced information.

31. 04-12-2011 02:16 AM #29

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    I have PES supercharger for sale!!! see northwest for sale forum

    Originally Posted by FNK re getting more power from a 2.8 a4
    "Paint the exhaust and intake with Ceramic paint (heat repellent), thus increasing the exhaust velocity, thus less striction = more Power"

32. 04-12-2011 02:19 AM #30

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    Originally Posted by somebody5788

    Hell when they are running right they start with a ton of torque and come on harder and harder till you accidentally bounce off the rev limiter. They so need a 7k redline.......

    Yes that thing pulls hard and fast i have hit the limiter once or twice when I first got mine.

    Originally Posted by FNK re getting more power from a 2.8 a4
    "Paint the exhaust and intake with Ceramic paint (heat repellent), thus increasing the exhaust velocity, thus less striction = more Power"

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